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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.09.12 10:04:00 -
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Instead of creating a thread where lots of goons come and say how terrible and cruel CCP are, demanding that they answer your questions when you know full well they never will and about unfair life is, why not just use the tactic yourself but really really really use it.
After all CCP have made it quite clear now that this is not an exploit so get over it, get there and use and abuse it.
I am pretty sure after a few more (lots and lots) of titans go pop when they are with theirs PoS they will listen.
Of course the other option is that they also believe the mantra "Death to All Supers"  so they couldn't care less , either way the best Titan is a dead Titan
DEATH TO ALL SUPERS |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.09.12 10:27:00 -
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Cebraio wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Instead of creating a thread where lots of goons come and say how terrible and cruel CCP are ... Regarding your tinfoil: I only see two goons so far, in support of the OP (and one against him) and we have not been called here. There just happen to be many of us interested in this game.
No tinfoil. I have seen a number of posts made on Reddit regarding this very subject.
As far as I can tell, this has happened 3 times now and on each occasion a petition was raised and no Titan was reimbursed.
Now even the most semi intelligent person would figure after the 3rd petition was rejected that CCP appear to have no issue with this.
Taking that into account
Go do that voodoo that you do so Well !!!! |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.09.12 10:30:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Instead of creating a thread where lots of goons come and say how terrible and cruel CCP are, demanding that they answer your questions when you know full well they never will and about unfair life is, why not just use the tactic yourself but really really really use it.
After all CCP have made it quite clear now that this is not an exploit so get over it, get there and use and abuse it. Except they've specifically said that it is an exploit.
Where?
Like I said before, this has happened 3 times now (to my knowledge) and a petition was raised on each occasion, each one being rejected.
If CCP have stated that this is indeed a exploit in a Dev Blog then I totally agree it is bollocks of the highest order and people who have lost their Titan should be reimburse and those involved should be banned.
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.09.12 10:41:00 -
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Thanks to Dave Stark and Mallak Azaria for the links.
After reading the link they have kindly provided I can not see how this is not a exploit so long as my understanding is correct and that the Titans were completely in the PoS shields.
As such not only should those who have lost Titans be reimburse (as much as I like seeing Titans die) but all those involved should receive at the very least an official warning if not a ban since they knew what exactly they were doing.
CCP really need to get their **** sorted but I suspect that this thread will soon be locked as all the others have
However my point still stands that the only way CCP will ever do anything is if the mechanic is abused on a large scale so with that you guys need to go on a kill a load of Titans sitting in PoS's and when people cry just point them to their own kills and tell them to HTFU |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.09.12 10:54:00 -
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Guys we all know there are many things CCP should and shouldn't do however CCP have a long history of not acting until somebody abuses a mechanic on a large scale.
We also know that when it comes to things like this all posting usually results in is a lot of threads being locked.
As I said, I completely agree its bullshit, hwever if you guys were to go a Titan killing spree then its a win win scenario.
If CCP do not relent then lots of dead enemy titans = Win
If CCP do relent you get your Titans reimburse and force CCP to acknowledge their own rules = Win |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.09.12 10:59:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Guys we all know there are many things CCP should and shouldn't do however CCP have a long history of not acting until somebody abuses a mechanic on a large scale.
We also know that when it comes to things like this all posting usually results in is a lot of threads being locked.
As I said, I completely agree its bullshit, hwever if you guys were to go a Titan killing spree then its a win win scenario.
If CCP do not relent then lots of dead enemy titans = Win
If CCP do relent you get your Titans reimburse and force CCP to acknowledge their own rules = Win and then when they ban you for using a known exploit multiple times?
Yet apparently it is not an exploit otherwise the first Titan would of been reimburse, those using the exploit would of been banned and the 2 other Titans would not of died. |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.09.12 12:44:00 -
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Yes technically this mechanic can effect anybody with a Titan within a PoS.
Realistically the only groups it really effects are CFC, NC, PL and any other large group that has a number of Titans at their disposal.
Yes a victim of an exploit does not necessary mean that they will get their items reimbursed or that the people who have used the exploit will get banned however in most cases this does tend to happen.
What we have here is a statement from CCP
"It is considered an exploit to bump ships that are located within starbase force-fields by any means that bypasses the requirement for a correct password or access permissions, as configured in the starbase tower settings, to achieve the bump. If a password or access permission would not normally be required to achieve the bump, the action is not covered by this notification.
Attempts to bypass the game mechanics of starbase force-fields are fully visible in server logs to CCP GamesGÇÖ staff and will result in appropriate action taken against the involved user accounts as per the EVE Online Suspension and Ban Policy from here on."
and a number of Titans kills where the Titan is bumped from inside a PoS.
CCP have on a number of occasions released statements declaring certain actions to be an exploit.
Considering the examples given I do not think it is an unreasonable request for clarification from CCP. |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.09.12 13:00:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Yes technically this mechanic can effect anybody with a Titan within a PoS.
Realistically the only groups it really effects are CFC, NC, PL and any other large group that has a number of Titans at their disposal. On the side of getting titan killmails, or getting titan lossmails?
To be honest both.
Only the large groups such as PL, CFC, NC etc have the numbers and experience to kill a Titan in this situation as speed and fire power are essential and since these groups also have the most Titans chances are it will be one of them that is on the receiving end.
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.09.12 15:42:00 -
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flakeys wrote:baltec1 wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:The coffin dust on this topic killed John Carter I thought the film killed John Carter. I rarely put on a movie and not watch it till the end no matter how bad it is , but john carter is an exception to the rule .
I think there is something wrong with me because I liked it |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.09.12 18:19:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:
I think there is something wrong with me because I liked it
If you have been forced to ever watch the second ghost rider then yes, it wasn't bad.
Oh dear, I think I really need help |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.09.12 19:37:00 -
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Once again as I really do not want this thread to disappear if the ship in question is 100% within the PoS shields and has been bumped out using the bounding sphere game mechanics that all ships in Eve use, to bump it out of the PoS shields then without any doubt this is an exploit.
What I would like to know and hopefully a member of the CSM can prod one of the Devs to answer this, Do the logs show if a ship is 100% within PoS shield at the point of impact and if so do the GM have access to those log and know what to look for?
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.09.12 19:42:00 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:
I'm also disappointed that the theme of the thread seems to be more 'pay me back for my loss' and less 'fix the problem.' Super pilots seem to think rule #1 of EvE no longer applies to them. Remember the rule of 'don't fly what you can't afford to lose?' Just because your ship costs 100bil isk doesn't mean you get to ignore this rule.
Look, if anything I should be arguing for the other side here however those people who have lost Titans in this manner are first and foremost asking CCP for clarification and reimbursement a distance second.
Also the whole if you cant afford you shouldn't fly it, that is fair enough, however when you lose a ship due to a exploit, why shouldn't that person demand there ship back, whether it be a frigate or Titan, its more the principle then the actual losing of the ship. |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.09.12 20:50:00 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:
Because my opinion is that reimbursement should never be done, whether it be a frigate or a Titan. You undock, you take your chances, period. The fact that supers can't dock does not change this.
As to the clarification, the only thing that needs to be said by CCP is the remedy to the issue and some temp bans to those using the exploit.
Think you missed the expliot bit... |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.09.12 20:51:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:flakeys wrote:baltec1 wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:The coffin dust on this topic killed John Carter I thought the film killed John Carter. I rarely put on a movie and not watch it till the end no matter how bad it is , but john carter is an exception to the rule . I think there is something wrong with me because I liked it me too, I thought it was a good popcorn flick, and I actually bought it
A man with good taste
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